Maybe. Not much.
ok
so in work now are you?
Yep.
I've just been rooting around in my drawers.
what for?
to make it look like you are doing something ? LOL LOL
Oh, just kind of trying to throw away any junk that I don't need. I can't believe the amount of paper I've wasted in my tenure here.
Anarchism is the answer YOUKNOWSIT
more freedom = the answer
Oh, and I found a cereal bar that I think I must have bought six months or more ago.
lol
I'll put that proposal to the boss.
lol
this gives a whole new meaning to "dreaming of a white xmas" doesnt it
Well, it's turned into more of a nightmare
well it doesnt bother me at all
hate flying and driving around
so when these cant happen i love it
i exaggerate
Not only is Sheepuality my favourite invented word BTW
I think Sheepuality is my favourite word of all time in any language I know
In phrases like "people cant accept my sheepuality..."
Hehe
The girls are stopping by my desk a lot more often today. This is not unrelated to the fact that someone's left a tin of shortbread cookies on my desk.
its not just that mate tho eh eh ...eh...
eh...?
eh>>>?
eh.....?
lol
face it - you are gonna have to some day - you are a babe magnet init ?
Oh yes. The cookies are just an excuse
lol
anyway catch ya later
Hey, me again.
hello how's the party?
i am in the process of purchazing a new mobby
Dull as fuck. Mobile?
yes
I'm trying to look busy by having a spreadsheet open whenever anyone walks past.
lol
But in reality.. I have zilch to do.
well
Got so bored earlier that I actually tidied up the reception area and cleaned the coffee stains off my desk.
one response is - dont knock it
how often do you have nothing to do ?
I know.
Fairly often.
I wish there was some way they could just re-route the phone to my bedroom, and I could transfer calls to the relevant people whilst wearing my pyjamas.
well that's something that annoys me that they FORCE you to get PAID work and then you waste your time.... that is probably quite WIDESPREAD too
Yep. Was having this conversation with my friend last night. She's in much the same sort of job.
well anarahism of a klind is ONE answer
anarchism
of a kind
It's like, if you work in a bar or certain shops, you can just read or whatever when nothings going on.
and its because of STUPIDITY NOT EVIL
BASIC INCOME
NOW
I mean at the end of the day IF IT NEEDS DOING IT SHOULD BE DONE ANYWAY
AND there simply FACTUALLY IS NOT ENOUGH PAID WORK
Actually, having said that, I can read, but only off the screen. I doubt it'd go down well if i were to read a mag or book.
ALSO
A BASIC INCOME ALREADY EXISTS = THE DOLE
That's a Green Party policy, innit - Citizen's Income?
something like that
It does make sense, in a way..
well i get a lot of stick when i propose it
OFTEN from unemployed people WEIRDLY enough
LOL
Cos, if one's on the dole, the moment you take a job they stop it.. + then you may have to wait a month (or more) to actually get paid.
well also they oppose it because its existence would make their whole lifestyle an absurdity
YES
Mm, wonder if it would work if it were implemented.
well that's what they sau
y
EVERYONE SAYS THAT
its funny
BUT IF YOU THINK ABOUT IT
......
....
IT ALREADY EXISTS
SINCE 1948
in a sense
THANKS TO....
MAINLY
A WELSHMAN
Bevan
and it works well
But, there's a few failures in the way it's designed - as alluded to above.
YES well in Sweden where SOCIAL SECURITY was MAINLY invented.....
Hate to sound like IDS, but I think there is something in the argument that it creates a dependency culture.
IT IS MUCH LARGER IN QUANTITY ANYWAY for a start
AH but that implies that people WORK for MONEY ONLY
which is.....
....
.....
..
...
...
True.. some work is done for the fun of it..
SO FAR FROM THE TRUTH AS IN LIKE MILLIONS OF MILES FROM TRUTH TOWN
MOST PEOPLE WORK BECAUSE THEY ARE SUPPOSED TO
But, are you telling me that anybody would shovel shit or flip burgers if they weren't getting paid for it?
ahhhh
now we are talking
well first thought is
- if it is MY burger and shit outside my door I WILL DO IT STRAIGHT AWAY FOR NOTHING - and ALL DAY
LOL
second thought - are YOU saying that IF someone REFUSES to shovel shit OR flip burgers - WHICH 90 per cent of ENGLISH people EFFECTIVELY DO....
pause for truth to sink in
if they refuse
Okay, if you could be completely self-sufficient... i.e. not dependent in any way on anyone else's labour - or in some kind of commune, that'd work...
are YOU saying that
.......?
they SHOULD STARVE
?
However, in an industrialised society, there's the necessity of specialisation and the division of labour...
No, I'm not saying that anybody should starve. I don't believe that.
yes well they worked this out in the 30s
IF all the NECESSARY work in an INDUSTRIALISED SOCIETY was SHARED FAIRLY
pause for this to sink in
NO ONE WOULD NEED TO WORK LONGER THAN 3 DAYS A WEEK
DISCUSS
Yeah, there's a ParaCon-ish idea similar to that. Like, one day you might be the CEO of a firm, the next you might clean the bogs.
it already happens
Oh, wasn't aware of THAT.
it is PROBABLY true
MORE SO NOW
because of increased COMPUTERISATION
MECHANISATION
Yeah. With increasing use of automation, the necessity of human labour diminishes. However, rather than the wealth generated being shared equally, the process is used to dispossess a greater proportion of the population.
Uh, I feel like I've swallowed a copy of One Dimensional Man.
well think about it ALL WORK IS VOLUNTARY
AND
ARE YOU !! saying people who dont work SHOUDL STARVE???
ANSWER PLEASE
I've already said, of course not!
Do you think for a moment that I think that?
no sorry
but what follows from they view that they shoudn;t starve.....
?
....
Yes, it comes back to the citizen's income thing.
exactly
which already exists
BEVANS's idea was a SAFETY NET
not EXACTLY same thing
BUT
Principle of NEED is already there
and IF there will be LESS work to do ANYWAY you HAVE to CONSIDER -
BASIC INCOME
....
of some kind
...
The "economics" may be tricky
but no more than those cause by BENEFITS already
IN FACT it would BOOST the "economy" MASSIVELY
Mm. Wonder if it.....
Wonder if it's ever been tried.
well in the soviet thing
they ALL had JOBS - BUT NO MONEY
lol
other way around
In this system they have NO jobs
but LOADS of money
like SWEDEN
Do you recall a quote from someone saying "Those who refuse work will be shot"?
where they have lots of money and buy lots of stuff
who said that? Nazis/Soviets/Vikings/British.....
Someone I know attributed a quote along those lines to old Trotters... but I can't find it anywhere. Not sure if he really said it.
But it's the logical expression of the policy of militarization of labour that he introduced.
yeah well even he didnt believe that
he just believed it because of CIRCUMASTANCES as HE SAW THEM
and the RELIGION of MARXISM allowed him to absolve himself of TERRIBLE DEEDS
As a logical consequence of his view of human nature, Trotsky believes that people must be
forced to work, using compulsion "from the gentle to the extremely severe:"
no he was a good guy trotsky
Sorry to go off on a tangent about Trotters
but human nature is to work
PEOPLE WANT TO WORK
OTHERWISE THEY WOULD NOT
SIMPLES!!!!
Well, yes and no.
to a point it is the case yes
well WE MUST DEFINE TERMS
WORK CAN = carrying the shopping = hard work!!!
I would like to have a place of my own, with room to live in.. nothing extravagant..
Exactly ... like a monastery
but anyway
its all in my think tank hopefully
ive got to take a pause
